April 08, 2008

Amazon tests new "leave seller feedback" page

Amazon is testing a new "leave seller feedback" page, according to this announcement.

Usually when Amazon posts an announcement like this, there's also an accompanying image of the new page being planned or tested. Not this time. Hmmm.

It seems I'm seeing the change in my buying account already. The thing I notice most is that the "seller's comments" are reproduced on the feedback page. That's a good thing, I guess. Also, when you run your mouse over the empty stars, a guide pops up telling you that 5 stars is "excellent," one is "awful," etc. Here's what I see when I click "leave seller feedback" link on my most recent Marketplace order. Anyone else?:

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February 12, 2008

eBay cuts media listing fees, but shuts the book on feedback

It seems eBay is starting to recognize that sellers are really steamed about the recent policy changes. In response, the company is making what looks like a token adjustments in fees in some categories, including books. But there's no give on the issue of feedback--sellers will no longer be able to leave negative or neutral ratings for bad buyers.

eBay is slashing insertion fees for these categories by up to 50 percent. For example, auctions with start prices of $1.00 to $9.99 will cost 25 cents in insertion fees, compared with 40 cents under the previous scenario.

Here are the changes, effective February 20:
In the Books, Music, Movies and Video Game software categories, eBay will offer lower insertion fees for the first three insertion tiers as follows:

$0.01 – 0.99 (auction-style only)
Original Categories Insertion Fee: $ .20
New Media fee: $ .10

$1.00 - 9.99 (auction-style and fixed price)
Original Categories Insertion Fee: $ .40
New Media fee: $ .25

$10.00 – 24.99 (auction-style and fixed price)
Original Categories Insertion Fee: $ .60
New Media fee: $ .35

But eBay marketplace honcho Lorrie Norrington pooh-poohed seller concerns that the recent feedback changes would hurt business. "We will proceed with our plans to evolve our feedback system and with the weighting of Detailed Seller Ratings (DSRs) in search, as announced," she said. "They are both central to our plans and will aid in providing a great buying experience from sellers buyers can trust."

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February 11, 2008

By a landslide, eBay sellers say feedback changes will hurt business

Nearly 99 percent of eBay sellers responding to a survey last week said the site's recent feedback changes will hurt business. The only thing sellers were happy about was enhanced PayPal protection for Powersellers:


Neg

Pos

Feedback changes

98.7%

1.3%

Fee changes

86.3%

13.7%

Best Match search visibility changes

83.3%

16.7%

Seller Standards

84.9%

15.1%

PayPal Protection for eBay PowerSellers

29.6%

70.4%


Read the full report here at AuctionBytes.

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February 02, 2008

eBay's Griff offers shaky defense of feedback changes

After the feedback changes announced this week at eBay, I wouldn't be surprised if there's an angry, torch-wielding mob beating down the front door of eBay's headquarters right now.

The new feedback policy prevents sellers from giving a bad buyer a neutral or negative feedback.

Huh? I've had about 5,000 transactions on eBay/Half and I've never left a negative for a buyer. But I should have the right to do so. It's called checks and balances. It's what regulates eBay's marketplace.

As you might expect, eBay's employees are all defending the decision, despite the outrage from sellers. Today the dean of eBay University, Griff, weighed in on his blog. He argues that eBay feedback had become meaningless because too many buyers are afraid to hit a bad seller with negative feedback, even when it's deserved.

The way it's supposed to work, Griff argues, is that sellers should automatically give buyers positive feedback. Then, buyers won't fear a retaliatory negative rating by the seller. Then, according to Griff's logic, the feedback scores of crummy sellers won't be inflated, and buyers will rest easy.

Here's how Griff puts it exactly:
Many sellers maintained a 99-100% positive Feedback rating by building their whole business strategy around “customer first” by providing the best possible experience for all their buyers. Let’s call them “A1” sellers. The majority of these “A1” sellers left Feedback for their buyers upon receipt of payment...

Many other sellers maintained a 99-100% by exploiting the system’s inherent built-in weakness: the implied threat of retaliation for a received negative. These sellers – we’ll call them “A2” sellers – never left Feedback first, but always waited to leave Feedback after the buyer left Feedback for them.

Griff, I beg to differ. Many sellers--like me, for instance-- who've been burned by irresponsible buyers now make it a habit of leaving feedback only after they've heard that the customer is satisfied. And in most cases, we know whether the buyer is happy when they leave feedback. (Needless to say, if they're not happy, I fix things.)

Griff, I'm not pulling this out of thin air, eBay itself approves this practice. It's in black and white, right here in eBay's official Feedback Tutorial:

Either approach is acceptable.... One reason sellers wait until a buyer has left feedback is they take the feedback as the signal that the buyer is satisfied with the purchase and no further customer support is needed.
Frankly, to be told I'm an "A2 seller" on eBay is pretty offensive to me. I've bent over backwards to ensure that each one of my customers was happy with their purchase.

What's your take on this?

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October 31, 2007

eBay tests jury system for disputed feedbacks

It's been a long, long, time since I've heard an original idea about how to resolve feedback disputes. Now AuctionBytes reports on something that just might work -- a new eBay program being tested in the UK called "Community Court."

It works like this: eBayers who want to contest a negative feedback rating can let a jury of 100 eBay peers decide the case. If 70 jurors agree with the seller, eBay removes the feedback. Otherwise, it's a hung jury and the feedback remains.

eBay has obviously put a lot of time into developing Community Court rules, and I hope it works well and migrates to the U.S.

I'll bet most of the people who bother to participate in something like this will be sellers. They know what's at stake, and will tend to give other sellers the benefit of the doubt. But I don't think jurors will automatically let bad sellers off the hook when they receive a legitimate negative feedback. Otherwise feedback is meaningless and doesn't help buyers or sellers.

The only way I can think of that Community Court might be abused was if unethical sellers were able to stack the jury with their cronies. Surely eBay has thought of a way to prevent this ...

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October 16, 2007

eBay's new feedback system could hurt small sellers

If you're an eBay seller, you should check out Skip McGrath's blog Make Money on eBay.

Skip is taking eBay to task for its new feedback design, which allows buyers to rate sellers anonymously on four criteria: Item as Described, Communication, Shipping Time, and Shipping & Handling Charges.

These eBay "detailed seller ratings" are similar to the "optional questions" that Amazon customers are prompted to complete while submitting feedback in response to Amazon's 21-day reminder e-mail. With Amazon, the optional questions don't figure into your feedback score. But on eBay, not only are the detailed ratings reflected in a star display, there's no way for the seller to find out which customers dinged their ratings.

Soon this will be a huge deal because, as Skip points out, in 2008 eBay will begin sorting search results by these detailed seller ratings. Sellers with the best ratings will be on top, and searches won't be filtered by auction ending time anymore.

If you get lots of feedback, your positives will cover up the occasional negative. But low-volume sellers who get dinged once or twice take a big hit:

This seller, for example, had one or two buyers unhappy with the delivery time. But the seller has no way of knowing who, and no way of resolving the problem or misunderstanding. If there really was a problem with delivery, perhaps the seller could refund the shipping fee. On the other hand, maybe the buyer didn't read the shipping terms. There's just no way to know (and nothing to prevent competitors from sabotaging your detailed ratings).

My own eBay feedback has been dinged on "Shipping & handling charges" even though I charge a flat $3.49. What do these buyers want -- free shipping on everything?

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September 12, 2007

Amazon's new feedback page emphasizes delivery time

Today Amazon began testing this new page where Marketplace buyers are asked to leave feedback (click on the picture to enlarge):
















Here's what stinks about this new page: Even more than the existing page, it emphasizes a short time window for Media Mail orders. For example, I just looked at the feedback page for a Marketplace order I placed on July 4. As a buyer, the first question I'm hit with is:

"Did your item arrive by July 26th?"

That's only 14 business days for shipping! As we all know, the Postal Service delivers many Media packages after that time frame. Yet Amazon is inviting buyers to zap up with negative feedback when USPS isn't prompt. When Amazon implies that something was substandard about the order, the implication is that it was the seller's fault, and the remedy is negative feedback.

The new page prompts buyers to criticize sellers for factors beyond the seller's control -- even if the buyer was satisfied with the purchase! (The existing design also provides the same delivery time frame, but asks the question at the bottom of the form, where many buyers might not even see it without scrolling down.)

On the other hand, I suppose the new design will reduce the amount of buyers who leave feedback comment about a book's contents. This page design makes it more obvious than ever that the buyer is being asked to rate the transaction, not the product.

Here's what else is new about the test page:
  • Only one click to reach the feedback page after logging in.
  • All feedback-eligible orders are visible on one page. Buyers can leave feedback on as many orders as they want without having to leave the page.
  • Comments are automatically filled in based on the rating the buyer clicks. For example, if the buyer leaves five stars and answers "Yes" to each of the three feedback questions, these comments are automatically added to the box: "Excellent. Item arrived on time. Item as described. Satisfied with customer service. The buyer can then edit the comment before submitting the feedback.
  • The message "If your order hasn't arrived yet, please note that it's still before the delivery estimate" is much more prominent.
  • The comments box is below the optional questions so buyers will be more likely to notice the questions before they leave a comment.
Although Amazon is calling the new page a "test," it sounds like the changes are guaranteed to go through. In its announcement, Amazon's Marketplace team said the design of the existing page "will not meet our business needs as we add new features." The announcement claims the new design was based on feedback from sellers (yeah, right) and will provide a "greatly improved buyer experience."

Here's my take: Amazon redesigned the form so that buyers can vent immediately using the feedback form, take out their frustrations on sellers, and consequently Amazon will receive fewer Marketplace order inquiries and complaints.

What do you think?

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May 09, 2007

New feedback system hits eBay

eBay unveiled its new feedback system, which is less forgiving for sellers but buyers seem to like it.

Skip McGrath has a good rundown here:
Most buyers think it is great, but many eBay sellers are less than enthusiastic. The main concern lies in Detailed Seller Ratings, an anonymous rating based on each of four criteria: shipping and handling, communication, item as described and shipping time as described. The problem is the seller has no recourse on this. Any buyer can leave any rating they want and there is no dispute process for the seller as there is for feedback. This, of course, is one of the reasons buyers love it. They can be honest without the fear of negative feedback in return.
Well, sometimes "honesty" is in the eye of the beholder.

I guess eBay's system is getting to be more like Amazon's -- with the increased danger of being zapped by some buyer who hasn't read the description, can't wait a week for Media Mail, or some other grievance.

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March 18, 2007

Q&A: Why does Amazon buyer feedback often critique the book, not the seller?

QUESTION: I've been selling books on eBay and Half.com for five years with 100 percent positive buyer feedback, and have only recently started to sell on Amazon.

Feedback is important to me is because it lets me know I'm grading my books correctly and meeting a buyer's service and quality expectation. But something is driving me nuts on Amazon: Many of the feedbacks I've received are mini book reviews that have absolutely nothing to do with the transaction. For example, two out of the three most recent feedbacks I've received went like this:

5 out of 5: "Clear, concise, practical, funny, personal. I couldn't put it down!"
(RE: Idiot's Guide to Toltec Wisdom)

4 out of 5: "This book was fascinating at first, but was too long and became predictable. It was an interesting read for the most part."
(RE: The Stolen Child by Keith Donohue)

I have received thousands of feedbacks on the eBay sites, and no one has ever assumed I was responsible for a book's content. Why are book buyers on Amazon so confused? Do they think they are buying a book directly from the author or publisher? What should I do when I receive negative feedback based on the buyer's dislike for the book's content?

I have concluded feedback is not as important on Amazon as it is on the eBay sites -- mainly because the average buyer is not as sophisticated as the average eBay buyer, and because if a buyer leaves a poor, mindless, or ridiculous rating on eBay there is no real consequence for doing so.

ANSWER: I agree, Amazon buyers are much less aware of the purpose of feedback. Some of them don't have the foggiest idea that they're buying from a third party instead of Amazon itself.

I read a lot of the customer book reviews on Amazon, where people are supposed to critique the book, and several of them say stuff like, "Thanks for the fast shipping."

Jeez, how did these people ever get a credit card?

No, seriously, I think there's more to this. I'm not sure the eBay buyer is more sophisticated. It's a different culture. Amazon buyers are driven more by convenience, and don't give much thought to feedback. On eBay, lots of buyers (maybe most?) have been on the seller's side of a transaction, so they understand feedback. On Amazon, I'd bet that less than 5 percent of buyers have ever sold something online.

The bad news: We have to deal with some clueless customers. The good news: This shows that our business is growing. People who never thought of buying from an "online seller" are buying our books. Lots of these people have never been on eBay, and perhaps never even bought a used book before.

You're right, feedback is much less important to buyers on Amazon. However, I think it's essential to your business to keep your feedback average as high as possible. Because feedback does matter to buyers of expensive books.

The best we can do is to clean up after the mishaps. Just as on eBay, Amazon allows buyers to delete feedback, and I think it's worth the effort for us to educate them. Hopefully this prevents inappropriate feedback for another poor seller!

Here's a post where I give instructions for feedback removal. On eBay, the equivalent is mutual feedback withdrawal.

I guess the additional challenge in the type of case you mention is to e-mail the buyer and educate them -- within a sentence or two -- that the purpose of feedback is to rate the seller, not the product. I think you need to be very brief when you ask a buyer to delete feedback. If they were careless enough to leave silly feedback, they aren't going to care enough to read an e-mail from a seller that drones on for several paragraphs. As far as they're concerned, the transaction is done.

Does anyone out there have a diplomatic way of saying this?

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January 23, 2007

eBay revamps feedback

If you're a regular eBay user, you know the auction site is planning to updating its feedback system. Here's a preview of what it will look like, based on testing on ebay's UK site.

eBay's "Feedback 2.0" adds these features:

Detailed Seller Ratings – In addition to the current positive, negative or neutral comment, buyers rate the sellers on these specific transaction aspects based on a 1 to 5 scale, with 1 being the lowest and 5 being the highest rating. The average of all ratings is displayed on the seller’s Feedback Profile page.

Display of Item Title and Price – To give buyers more information to evaluate the reputation of a seller, the transaction’s item title and selling price will be displayed beneath each Feedback comment on the Feedback Profile page for 90 days. This will give buyers more context while reviewing and evaluating Feedback comments.

Feedback 2.0 will help buyers feel even more confident about a seller’s reputation, while rewarding good sellers by recognising and highlighting the things they do to ensure customer satisfaction.

Get more details at AuctionBytes.com

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January 10, 2007

Q&A: Should I ask buyers for feedback?

QUESTION: I've been selling books online since 1999, but started getting serious about selling on Amazon a year ago. My sales are not huge, maybe 30 or so since August, but my feedback is lame -- only four in that time. At least I'm at 100 percent.

Should I ask for feedback on Amazon? I usually do on Half.com in my e-mail that notifies shipment. I always say "I've left you positive feedback and hope you will do the same for me if you are happy with your purchase". I have had good luck with that. On Amazon, with no option to give feedback to the buyer, I am reluctant to, well, beg.

ANSWER:
My thinking on this has evolved a bit since I started selling in 2000. When I went full-time, I rigged up a system to send my Amazon customers an e-mail shipping confirmation, including a link for leaving feedback. This way I'd often receive feedback before the customer received the reminder e-mail from Amazon (as you know, Amazon sends an e-mail 21 days after the transaction, asking the buyer to rate the transaction.)

I solicited feedback, of course, because I think having a big and good feedback record makes you more competitive as a seller, making it more likely that people will buy from you.

I changed my mind on this about six to nine months ago. I realized that perhaps half of the negative feedback I was getting was before the 21-day mark. Almost always, it was someone frustrated about slow delivery of Media Mail (even though it was usually before the estimated delivery date). Eventually I decided that I could avoid a lot of that negative feedback by not asking for the feedback at the time of shipment. It's just a guess, but I figure that most of those people who are angry about slow delivery at the 10-day mark won't be angry after they receive their book and get Amazon's 21-day reminder to leave feedback -- and, hopefully they won't leave negative feedback.

If you're trying to build up your feedback, I'd just continue what you're doing, perhaps ramp up your selling a bit. There is software available for automating the process of asking for feedback, but I really don't think it's worth it. I base this idea on my own buying behavior when I'm shopping on Marketplace. All else being equal, I will usually buy from a seller who has a better average score (I like to see 95 percent positive), rather than buy from a seller with more feedback ratings, but a lower average. In other words, I'll buy from a seller with 96 percent positive and 200 total ratings before I'll buy from someone who has 2,000 feedbacks but only 90 percent positive.

As far as leaving feedback for buyers on Amazon: There is a way to do it, but it's very convoluted and not worth it. Probably 99 percent of Marketplace buyers aren't aware of buyer feedback and don't care. I think buyer feedback was important back when Amazon first launched third-party selling, and a lot of the buyers were familiar with feedback from experience with eBay. Nowadays, a lot of the Marketplace buyers have never used eBay, have never purchased from an individual online before, and some of them don't even realize they're not buying directly from Amazon.

So over time, I've gotten a lot more relaxed in my attitude toward feedback. Lately I just take care of my business the best I can, and hope the feedback situation takes care of itself.

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January 07, 2007

Q&A: How important is customer service?

QUESTION: As a new online bookseller, I wonder how important our relationships with customers are. Of course it's always important to deliver what you promise, do a good job, etc. in almost anything you undertake in business. But why does everybody preach so much about the importance of customer service? Isn't this one business where you are likely to sell to a customer only once, especially if you're not a megaseller? And even if you did sell to someone more than once, they probably wouldn't remember your bookstore name anyway?

Or does it really boil down to feedback, where having a 5-star rating results in many more sales than a 4.7 star rating, for example? I always ship within the deadlines, but other sellers spend up to $1.00 on elaborate packaging and 3 minutes of packaging time per book, in the name of customer satisfaction. While this may produce higher satisfaction, I would rather ship using an easier/cheaper method, that will deliver the book fully intact but may not evoke praise for "professionalism."

ANSWER: I think you're right, as booksellers participating on a network, we don't have the same necessity of acquiring and keeping customers that traditional businesses have had. Platforms like Amazon or eBay bring us our customers, and that's why we pay those commissions.

So it's true that for many buyers, we're anonymous, an unknown quantity. From some of the e-mails I get from customers, it's obvious they think they're dealing with Amazon, that I'm an Amazon employee.

Nevertheless, I do stress customer service for two main reasons:

1. To protect your business. If you're selling books to earn money, you'll be more competitive if you can display a good feedback record. Many of the customers buying cheap books don't look at feedback, but those who buy expensive books do.

2. Providing good service can make your business easier to manage. That's my philosophy, there's no way I can prove it works for everybody, but it works for me. It's just a general approach, like checking your e-mail every few hours and being pro-active about handling little problems that come up. I believe if you can nip little problems in the bud, you can prevent a lot of big problems from happening. If you can prevent the big problems, it eliminates the big headaches that can suck up so much of your time.

As far as packing materials go, when I started selling I used cardboard bookfolds on every book, even if it was a 25-cent sale. Over time, I've transitioned to vinyl bubble mailers for books worth less than $15 or $20. That makes the packing job go a lot faster, and I haven't had any more mishaps with books being damaged than when I was using bookfolds.

A lot of Amazon sellers believe that the company's trend toward hiding buyer and seller e-mail addresses is going to downgrade the customer experience, and I agree wholeheartedly. Getting in the way of our communication with buyers is going to hurt everyone in the long run, including Amazon.

But getting back to your question about repeat business: While you'd think the odds would be very high that a seller is going to have more than one book for a Marketplace customer, it happens. Every week or two as I scan through my feedback, I see a feedback comment from a customer indicating they were "pleased again from buying from this seller," or something to that effect. If a customer is happy with their purchase, they will often look through your other listings.

I am curious to know if other sellers have repeat business. What are the prospects for more repeat customers during the coming year, considering all the recent changes at Amazon, like the demise of zShops?

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December 17, 2006

Q&A: How can my Amazon customer remove negative feedback?

QUESTION: I received my first negative feedback from a buyer on Amazon Marketplace. When I contacted the customer, she realized that she had made a mistake; she meant to leave the negative feedback for a different bookseller. Can she change the feedback to reflect this error? How can I instruct her to make this change?

ANSWER: Buyers can't change feedback, but they can delete it.

Here are the instructions Amazon gives to customers for removing feedback:
  1. Go to http://www.amazon.com/your-account.
  2. Find the pull-down menu next to "View by Order." Select "Orders placed in the past 6 months", and hit the "go" button.
  3. After you sign in, you'll find a listing of your recent orders. Select the relevant order and click the "View order" button.
  4. You will find a feedback section 2/3rds of the way down the page. To remove feedback, click on the "Remove" link in the feedback section of the order summary.
  5. You may only remove feedback if it is 60 days or less since you left the feedback.
I usually do something a bit different, and I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble or not. It takes a bit longer to do but it helps ensure the customer finds the correct feedback. Here's the script and link I use:
Here's where you can delete the feedback, about halfway down the page you'll see your feedback comment and a link to "remove". I'd greatly appreciate it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/css/summary/edit.html?orderID=XXXXXXXXXXX
Replace the series of Xs on the end with the customer's order number.

The difference with my technique is that the customer isn't looking at a list of orders, they only see their order with you.


You might want to test out both techniques and see which one you think is best. You can take a look at the screens yourself if you've left feedback for a Marketplace seller within the past 60 days. After that point, buyers can't delete feedback.

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